DINO CAZARES On Possibility Of Reunion Of FEAR FACTORY’s Classic Lineup: ‘I Don’t See It For Any Amount Of Money’
In a new interview with Australia’s «Scars And Guitars» podcast, FEAR FACTORY guitarist Dino Cazares was asked if he thinks he could make a reunion of the band’s classic lineup — including vocalist Burton C. Bell, bassist Christian Olde Wolbers and drummer Raymond Herrera — happen if «enough money was dangled in front» of them. He responded (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): «Yeah, but it doesn’t mean it’s gonna last long. First of all, you’re trying to get four guys who don’t like each other together. For any amount of money, it doesn’t mean it’s gonna last long. It might not even make it through a whole tour. So why bother? There’s too much baggage there…»
Referring to the lawsuits that were initiated by Olde Wolbers and Herrera against Cazares and Bell which led to the guitarist and the singer filing separately for bankruptcy, Dino said: «Lives were ruined. Lives were changed. Lives were at jeopardy. Careers were at jeopardy because of these lawsuits, and stuff like that. So, whether anybody can forgive each other for that, that’s a whole other thing. I don’t know. I don’t see it for any amount of money. But if we did do it for the money, would that be fair, when there’s no charisma on stage, no one wants to be there? Would that be fair to the fans? I don’t think so.»
Cazares went on to say that he understands the fans’ enthusiasm for getting original members back together. «Of course, it’s like a Fantasy Football League — you wanna put your favorite band together, your favorite team together,» he said. «That’s all it is. It’s a Fantasy Football League, and that’s all it is. And it’s gonna remain a fantasy for now. I’m never gonna say never, ’cause you never know what’s gonna happen. But I can say now, to get four members that don’t wanna be with each other, don’t wanna hang around each other, don’t wanna be on the same stage with each other… It wouldn’t be fair.»
According to Dino, he and Bell made an attempt several years ago to reform FEAR FACTORY‘s classic lineup but were rebuffed by Olde Wolbers and Herrera. «We actually have tried to sit down and have conversations about mediation, about trying to put the band back together,» he said. «That was something that me and Burton were actually offering to those guys to come back, but their demands were just insanely stupid; it was so high that nobody would benefit from it. So that idea got tossed out way back in 2015 — six years ago.»
After FEAR FACTORY disbanded in 2002, the band reformed in the same year without Cazares, but with Olde Wolbers moving to guitar duties and Byron Stroud being brought in on bass. That lineup made two albums — 2004’s «Archetype» and 2005’s «Transgression» — and then took a break. Meanwhile, Cazares formed the band DIVINE HERESY and recorded two albums with the group before rekindling his friendship with Bell and launching a new version of FEAR FACTORY, also featuring Stroud and acclaimed extreme metal drummer Gene Hoglan.
FEAR FACTORY has made four albums since splitting with Olde Wolbers and Herrera: «Mechanize» (2010), «The Industrialist» (2012), «Genexus» (2015) and the upcoming «Aggression Continuum».
«Aggression Continuum» will arrive on June 18 via Nuclear Blast Records. The LP features Cazares, Bell and drummer Mike Heller.
Last September, Bell issued a statement officially announcing his departure from FEAR FACTORY, saying that he «cannot align» himself with someone whom he does not trust or respect.
Bell‘s exit from FEAR FACTORY came more than two weeks after Cazares launched a GoFundMe campaign to assist him with the production costs associated with the release of FEAR FACTORY‘s long-awaited new LP.
Bell later told Kerrang! magazine that his split with FEAR FACTORY was a long time coming. «It’s been on my mind for a while,» he said. «These lawsuits [over the rights to the FEAR FACTORY name] just drained me. The egos. The greed. Not just from bandmembers, but from the attorneys involved. I just lost my love for it.
«With FEAR FACTORY, it’s just constantly been, like, ‘What?!’ You can only take so much. I felt like 30 years was a good run. Those albums I’ve done with FEAR FACTORY will always be out there. I’ll always be part of that. I just felt like it was time to move forward.»
Pressed about whether there is any chance of a reconciliation with FEAR FACTORY down the line, Burton said: «I’m done. I haven’t spoken to Dino in three years. I haven’t spoken to Raymond [Herrera, drums] and Christian [Olde Wolbers, bass] in longer than that, and I have no intention to. I’m just moving forward with my life.»
In October, Dino issued a statement in which he said that the door for Burton to come back to FEAR FACTORY wouldn’t «stay open forever.» The guitarist also revealed that Burton «lost his legal rights» to the FEAR FACTORY name «after a long court battle» with Herrera and Olde Wolbers. «I had the opportunity to do something right, and I felt that obtaining the name in full was the right thing to do for the both of us, so after nearly four years we can continue as FEAR FACTORY, to make more records and to tour,» he said. «That is why it is sad to hear that he decided to quit and, in my opinion, for whatever issues he has it seems like it could’ve been worked out.»